ladder

[fl00d3d]

The easiest way to check stats right now is probably through IRC. I wouldn't trust anything on the Renegade site. More than likely it's severely outdated.

[NoTMoFiR3]

It's impossible for a terrible ... or probably even 'average' ... player to get a gold medal. So there is definitely skill involved.

And we're talking about public servers here, so you can't even attempt to compare a gold medal to "top players in the community" because that was never suggested.

Medals are a pretty fair way of knowing who is going to be the MVP in the game or not. And a way to show that you're not just an average joe.

Untrue, i was really low down in the ladder when i was banned lmao, but im better than most here.

its more about the amount of games you get in tbh.

[fl00d3d]

That definitely contributes (since its is an accumulation of score).

But if you're a complete retard with 100pts per game ... and you play 100 games in the month. You get 10,000 points. If you're a semi pro that averages 1000 points a game, but only plays 10 games that entire month, you still come out with the same ladder rank.

So obviously the total number of games matters, but if you're super pro and play significantly less games you'd still win the ladder. So by not winning the ladder you either (a) don't get many points -OR- (b) don't play many games. Which goes back to the original point: it does prove skill to have a medal because if you can't beat out some player with 100 games that month in the 10 games you play that month, you're terrible and don't deserve a medal. But you can't use medals to gauge community-wide skill. Just their value on our server.

[NoTMoFiR3]

That definitely contributes (since its is an accumulation of score).

But if you're a complete retard with 100pts per game ... and you play 100 games in the month. You get 10,000 points. If you're a semi pro that averages 1000 points a game, but only plays 10 games that entire month, you still come out with the same ladder rank.

So obviously the total number of games matters, but if you're super pro and play significantly less games you'd still win the ladder. So by not winning the ladder you either (a) don't get many points -OR- (b) don't play many games. Which goes back to the original point: it does prove skill to have a medal because if you can't beat out some player with 100 games that month in the 10 games you play that month, you're terrible and don't deserve a medal. But you can't use medals to gauge community-wide skill. Just their value on our server.

Its public dude, some maps as you damn well know, its just you, and say about 3 f*cking noobs, sh*t like that happens all the time, Public ladders arent exactly entirerly fair.

[Nightma12]

Someone on your own team affects your score the least though... as opposed to the wol ladder on win/lose

[STEREODOG]

I like the win/lose ladder because I have a tendancy to be on the winning team almost all the time I play.