Tsunami Gaming

I apologized for behavior ingame, but you were asking for it.

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Now that I'm not ingame and can defend myself properly without the useless yelling back and forth comments, please allow me to explain.

The game was even with four players playing (renkey, me, dtsmiley (sp), and soas) for about 3 maps. When city flying loaded a player joined on renkey's side, then got auto banned. I used the !team command, which did not work due to my % status and then typed !eteam two secs afterwards, without hesitation. The previous games played were very close and I do admit that I "purposely" used the !team command to switch myself to renkey's side (which I admitted to you ingame after you kept on nagging me about it). Soas and Dtsmiley has not been on the same team yet and I just wanted different opponents. I asked you to stop arguing about this because I really just wanted to play and have fun at the moment. You kept bugging me and accusing me of mod abuse, saying that "all" aow mods are like this, st0ne, mofire, medici, and whoever else you mention. If you check the logs, you will see that I only use the !eteam command only 4 or 5 times, maybe even less. I have never attempt to use the !team command EVER (until this game). I asked you to stop bugging me about this and post the logs on the fourms so we can talk about it later, but you responded that "I don't want to waste my time." I didn't want to waste my time talking about this stupid issue either, but you kept on messaging me even after you said you don't want to waste your time on this. You accused of something that I'm not, and I don't know about you but if someone keeps bugging me even after I repeatedly told them to stop and continue with false accusation, I get pissed. I admitted to you being right ingame because YOU were right, I did use the !team command to switch to renkey's side. I was not being sarcastic either, but you left irc before I could say anything further.

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Again I admitted that you were right that I tried to use the !team command in order to switch to renkey's side. The game was 3v1... no matter who switched the game would of been even, so how's that mod abuse?

Do not assume that b/cz st0ne, mofire, medici, (and whoever else) does it that i do it too. If you would have simply private message me or send one msg about this, it would of been cool, but you kept on dragging it out when I repeatedly told you that we can talk about this later.

You sure make TSU look good by arguing during a game in public and arguing with eski when its clearly much more appropriate to talk to him privately. (this is sarcasm)

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Ecstasy I have no beef with you, in fact some arguments such as the ban issue I agree with, but there's a way to do it and so far I don't think you find the right way yet. Do not give up, you're an important part of TSU and again I apologized for behavior ingame... I was pissed. BTW we won the map by base destruction.

Yeah I'm a little pissed tonight. I was using st0ne and mofir3 as an example, they have never done this before. I'd suggest Raul or fl00d3d check the command logs in rdp. I remember one game medici joined and teamed himself to the other team, and it was obvious that the side that he teamed himself too was very heavily stacked with good players, and they had more than us also. He was watching a cheater - cool. I didn't shoot at him at all. Five minutes later medici kills me with a stank and I left after that bs. That is just one story. I'm sure if you check the logs you will find more mods using !team. If you really care about the server, then you will go to the full logs and find the time they did it, you might be surprised.

The only reason why it would be mod abuse is because using !eteam was the appropriate action. I used the st0ne and mofir3 example as follows: st0ne and two noobs vs mofir3, then st0ne teams himself to be with mofir3 instead of using !eteam. You've been a dick ingame to me before (waiting behind me with a sniper and shooting me in the head as soon as I buy something) so idk.

As far as Eski goes, he donated for co-admin, and it really shows. I got very irritated with him when Mandai joined the server. He had no idea how to even check to see if it really was Mandai, and he almost banned three potentially innocent players. Mofir3 said "rat8" was cheating along with another guy, but rat8 was playing under wol. Mandai was playing under two nicks and he wrecked two games before he could figure it out. Mandai was repairing himself from the other team, so he had a negative score, and that's kind of a hint there. Meanwhile NR needed to be restarted -_-. On top of that, he starts sh*t every chance he gets. To be honest he doesn't know what he's doing. He got passed up for a promotion, there's a hint.

I don't really have any problems with medici.

I'm pretty pissed off in real life right now, and it's spilling over into Renegade like usual - sorry.

P.S. Please remove me from the AOW modlist.

np man.. we're cool then?

See how much easier it would have been.

Yeah, I'm just waiting for the flames.

lol =s i never even used any of the commands when i had MOD. only gkick to one person when ectasy told me to

I dont rememeber stone ever abusing his commands either :S

NoTMoFiR3 wrote: I dont rememeber stone ever abusing his commands either :S

ecstasy wrote:I was using st0ne and mofir3 as an example, they have never done this before.

Anyway, you should never use !team unless you're teaming yourself to watch a cheater or do a test. Always use !eteam where possible. And as far as the "not knowing how to test for cheats" goes: if Eski is a bit rusty because he's been gone too long - I suggest that Medici give him training or temporarily demote him. I agree that top level mods should be near perfect.

ecstasy wrote:I'm pretty pissed off in real life right now, and it's spilling over into Renegade like usual - sorry.

No problem, I thought as much.

ecstasy wrote:Please remove me from the AOW modlist.

I'd like you to think 'good and hard' think about that, if things are as bad as you're alleging I'll need you on the list, so I'll keep you on unless you really don't want to be.

ecstasy wrote:I remember one game medici joined and teamed himself to the other team, and it was obvious that the side that he teamed himself too was very heavily stacked with good players, and they had more than us also. He was watching a cheater - cool. I didn't shoot at him at all. Five minutes later medici kills me with a stank and I left after that bs.

I only team myself to look for cheaters, even the teams or do legit swaps (Noob A: I want Nod! Noob B: I want GDI!). I used to team myself if I got stuck on a team of retards, but I stopped doing that when people started moaning at fl00d for doing it. The !team command is more effective when evening teams given the moderator has a degree of common sense and a knowledge of player skill, often a good player can be AFK for 30 seconds or so at the start of the game, or perhaps be unlucky enough not to get the harvester kill and so would be moved with an early !eteam. If Neo were to be on Nod, with two noobs and a good player on GDI, and the good player switched with an !eteam, that is obviously worse than !teaming a noob. Neo, I think I need to talk to you too.

If I did kill you after I !teamed myself, that was either A) An accident, B) I got carried away, C) I found the cheater / found he wasn't cheating and decided it would be more fair to stay on the team that I moved to than move myself back.

ecstasy wrote:As far as Eski goes, he donated for co-admin, and it really shows.

Some serious allegations regarding Eski were made, he has always been a good mod, so as fl00d3d says, if he has been acting unsatisfactorily it is probably because he is 'rusty.' I learned pretty much everything Renegade related that I couldn't teach myself from Eski, so I know he has the knowledge and ability. I will talk to him and give him some kind of 'refresher course' if necessary.

ecstasy wrote:I don't really have any problems with medici.

Thanks, <3 you too.

I hope I covered everything, I'll take everyone's concerns into account, and I think it might be useful for Ecstasy and I to have a private meeting.

Yeah... the teams was even no matter how the remix went, we played about 3 maps together (I think) and it was basically the same teams. When the cheater got autobanned, I thought it was a good chance to mix it up a little bit, but I was only aiming to equal the team, not stack myself on a good team (as ecastasy thought I was... which brings us to this argument). You can even ask renkey, soas, or mtsmiley about this - we were all on just about the same level. I used !eteam right afterwards... causing that game to be a good game after we finally stop arguing.

I usually don't leave a game even if I'm on a team of noobs unless a) I have to go or b) the team of noobs do stupid sh*t on purpose. But in the future, I won't even try using the !team command (not that i can anyways). That game was the first time I ever attempt to use the !team command... hence me getting owned by the bot because I wasn't allow to use it.

I post this b/cz Ecstasy got very upset about me trying to use the command and accusing me of abusing it, not knowing that it was my first time using it and not knowing that the teams are really even no matter the outcome. Then when I asked him to stop arguing about this and post on the forum about it, he replied "I don't want to waste my time." He continue to waste my time however even after he made that comment. After a couple more nonsense comments, he left irc before i could explain my situation, thus I made a post about it.

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We're cool now though.

Ecstasy wrote:he donated for co-admin

... Whatever, I didn't donate for anything. I tought you was alright Ecstasy but you've proven me wrong.

Demote me/remove me, I don't care any more. I got other sh*t to be doing.

I'm pretty sure that you donated a "lump sum" to get co-adming. Either you or sinestro did it, I'm 100% sure one of you did. I've never had any problems with you, I just got a little pissed off that's all. The drama sh*t started it and then mandai set it off. Anyway, I'm all good now.